Shoot the messenger
We in Britain all ought to be ashamed over the disclosures now coming out from America in respect of the Enhanced Interrogation Techniques employed by the CIA on prisoners captured in Iraq.
For example prisoners could be deprived of sleep for 180 hours. Prisoners could be slammed against a wall 30 times consecutively. Prisoners could be waterboarded six hours in a two hour stretch. If the prisoner got water in their throat and nose then 'an intervening physician would perform a tracheotomy.
Now the Attorney General Eric H.Holder Jr. said the Justice Department would not prosecute CIA employees, would appoint lawyers to fight legal challenges in the United States or overseas and would even pay judgments or penalties assessed against employees who followed the guidance they got from his department.
Now you might ask what has Britain and her courageous soldiers got to do with all this. Well we actually detained the prisoners which the Americans then 'tortured' with their Enhanced Interrogation Techniques, this is extra-ordinary rendition.
On the 26th February 2009 it is shown in Hansard that the new Minister of Defence John Hutton had to admit to parliament in the words 'I regret that it is now clear that inaccurate information on this particular issue (Records of Detention(Review Conclusions) has been given to the House by my department'.
The Records of Detention refers to the number of people detained by the British army in Iraq who were subsequently handed over to the Iraq and Americans for interrogation. If the Americans were doing these things to their prisoners one can only imagine what the Iraqis may have done'.
This is more important than all the latest shinanigins about arresting MPs, about expenses, about smear campaigns, this is shameful. We were part of this torture by any other name. Oh, all the above was to take place unless it caused severe pain, pain was alright, severe pain not.
I want a statement from the British Prime Minister that he regrets what the American memos disclose, they are our allies and there must be no cover up. No protection from prosecution. Nobody who knew about this should be allowed to be silent. I am sure that we knew what was being done in our name. There must be an urgent public inquiry into our invlovement in this process.
There has been enough inaccurate information coming from the Ministry of Defence, it is time to clean out the stables.
In the meantime there is an injunction taken out by the Ministry of Defence preventing him from speaking in public. The truth is out there, it will not be hidden, but somebody needs to be prosecuted, even the lawyers who gave their advice, they are the guilty ones, soldiers follow orders, sometimes like in Nazi germany they should have refused them.
I regard these actions authorised and acted upon as being war crimes. Who decides on prosecutions because if some people are now charged then we are all guilty.
For example prisoners could be deprived of sleep for 180 hours. Prisoners could be slammed against a wall 30 times consecutively. Prisoners could be waterboarded six hours in a two hour stretch. If the prisoner got water in their throat and nose then 'an intervening physician would perform a tracheotomy.
Now the Attorney General Eric H.Holder Jr. said the Justice Department would not prosecute CIA employees, would appoint lawyers to fight legal challenges in the United States or overseas and would even pay judgments or penalties assessed against employees who followed the guidance they got from his department.
Now you might ask what has Britain and her courageous soldiers got to do with all this. Well we actually detained the prisoners which the Americans then 'tortured' with their Enhanced Interrogation Techniques, this is extra-ordinary rendition.
On the 26th February 2009 it is shown in Hansard that the new Minister of Defence John Hutton had to admit to parliament in the words 'I regret that it is now clear that inaccurate information on this particular issue (Records of Detention(Review Conclusions) has been given to the House by my department'.
The Records of Detention refers to the number of people detained by the British army in Iraq who were subsequently handed over to the Iraq and Americans for interrogation. If the Americans were doing these things to their prisoners one can only imagine what the Iraqis may have done'.
This is more important than all the latest shinanigins about arresting MPs, about expenses, about smear campaigns, this is shameful. We were part of this torture by any other name. Oh, all the above was to take place unless it caused severe pain, pain was alright, severe pain not.
I want a statement from the British Prime Minister that he regrets what the American memos disclose, they are our allies and there must be no cover up. No protection from prosecution. Nobody who knew about this should be allowed to be silent. I am sure that we knew what was being done in our name. There must be an urgent public inquiry into our invlovement in this process.
There has been enough inaccurate information coming from the Ministry of Defence, it is time to clean out the stables.
In the meantime there is an injunction taken out by the Ministry of Defence preventing him from speaking in public. The truth is out there, it will not be hidden, but somebody needs to be prosecuted, even the lawyers who gave their advice, they are the guilty ones, soldiers follow orders, sometimes like in Nazi germany they should have refused them.
I regard these actions authorised and acted upon as being war crimes. Who decides on prosecutions because if some people are now charged then we are all guilty.
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