Trouble is in the air
now you know that it is possible to read some very old copies of Hansard via the internet, or the WWW not the WWD, which refers of course to the World Wide Depression, or WWR which is of course the World Wide Recession. All of this is nothing to do with WMD, which is why this was not a peace time budget. We are at war, in Iraq and Afghanistan, this budget was a war time budget and we just cannot afford these wars.
Now to my very simple point, I show below a copy of part of a debate which took place on the 14 August 1917 Vol. 26 cc383-408 with regard to Naval Pensions:-
ยง 'The most important questions I wish to bring before the House this evening are in connection with pay and pensions. The matter of pensions is at the moment causing a great deal of irritation in the Fleet. I say that as it stands now there is a great injustice and a breach of contract between the Government and the men, and I intend to prove this. The contract between the Government and the men when they join the Service is in these terms, that after twenty-two years qualifying service they get pensions which are awarded for life. That is a definite and distinct contract which, if broken, concerns the honour of the State. Your Lordships will bear in mind that a pension is really only deferred pay. The men are paid less than what might be described as the market price, in order that a pension may be provided for them. If that were not the case, they would be paid more'.
Now need I say more. Remember that during the Great Depression the government tried to lower the pay of some members of the navy, namely the ratings. What happened was that there was the Invergordon Mutiny. Beware whichever government takes over because there was the collapse of the Soviet Union which evreybody seems to say that nobody saw it coming, well some of us did, just like some of us could see the latest economic crash.
Well there is trouble brewing, I can feel it in the air, everything is now on shifting sands, and what seems permanent will never stay that way. We are on the road to ruin, mark my words, there is trouble brewing.
Now to my very simple point, I show below a copy of part of a debate which took place on the 14 August 1917 Vol. 26 cc383-408 with regard to Naval Pensions:-
ยง 'The most important questions I wish to bring before the House this evening are in connection with pay and pensions. The matter of pensions is at the moment causing a great deal of irritation in the Fleet. I say that as it stands now there is a great injustice and a breach of contract between the Government and the men, and I intend to prove this. The contract between the Government and the men when they join the Service is in these terms, that after twenty-two years qualifying service they get pensions which are awarded for life. That is a definite and distinct contract which, if broken, concerns the honour of the State. Your Lordships will bear in mind that a pension is really only deferred pay. The men are paid less than what might be described as the market price, in order that a pension may be provided for them. If that were not the case, they would be paid more'.
Now need I say more. Remember that during the Great Depression the government tried to lower the pay of some members of the navy, namely the ratings. What happened was that there was the Invergordon Mutiny. Beware whichever government takes over because there was the collapse of the Soviet Union which evreybody seems to say that nobody saw it coming, well some of us did, just like some of us could see the latest economic crash.
Well there is trouble brewing, I can feel it in the air, everything is now on shifting sands, and what seems permanent will never stay that way. We are on the road to ruin, mark my words, there is trouble brewing.
posted by Catch22 at 3:22 AM
0 Comments:
Post a Comment
<< Home